Sunday, January 13, 2013

Can the Domestic Nigerian Men Please Stand up?

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Soon after A Heart to Mend came out, I blogged about a reader who felt Edward was too emotional, and how that made the book seen western, or Edward not Nigerian enough. In his opinion, real Nigerian men are not romantic nor do they show their emotions. I know this is a mindset many other people share, and I have heard it from both male and female readers of my novels.

Another generalization that is often made about the real or 'typical Nigerian man' is that he is not domestic. It is consistently shown and believed to be true beyond questioning that our country men do not, can not, and will not, help around the house. You see it in movies, read about it in books, and probably hear it in songs.

I cannot say I do not know where this is coming from, in my home growing up, the chores were shared by gender. Boys did the men-chores like washing the car and carrying heavy stuff, while girls did the cooking, cleaning and taking care of the babies.


However, by the time we all grew up and became more independent, everyone learnt to take care of themselves which included boys cooking, and girls getting to wash their own cars, or change their light bulbs. But then socialization can be so hard to overcome, so when most people get married, they find that they revert to the gender roles status quo.

Sometimes this works for those involved, especially where the home is traditional in the sense that the man works and the woman is a full time home maker. But where the woman works outside the home too and has to add that to housework, or the man wants to do stuff but feels locked out, they may be allowing themselves to get boxed in, and end up resentful and their relationship suffocated.

Funny enough, it always causes an uproar when anyone tries to suggest that men become more domestic and try to do those chores traditionally considered for the females, like cooking or taking care of the little ones. Who else have seen the picture below, or seen the discussions it spawns anywhere it appears?


Personally, I prefer when both people can pitch in and help each other out when situation calls for it, and so it was with a smile I admired the pictures on top of Peter Okoye of PSquare which he shared himself cooking, and taking care of his kids. I applaud Peter because some men do these house work, and take care of their children, but will never let it be known for whatever reasons, mostly chauvinistic.

Now that we're trying to be real, can the domestic Nigerian men please stand up?





53 comments:

  1. *on my feet* great write up. I have a choice not to help my wife with chores and the baby, but i just am not built like that, my wife is not a slave. I clean, sweep, dust, do all the heavy lifting and cook sometimes. Doing these things together brings us closer, we respect each other more. Oh!! Shoot baby's calling, see ya. lol

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    1. On my feet too, giving it up for you. *clap, clap, clap*

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  2. I totally agree with you Myne. The domestic Nigerian Man needs to stand up and help around the house instead of encouraging wives to get house keepers if they can't cope. However, I am not comfortable with the man backing a baby and washing. It's not a sight I'm used to o.Must he back that way? ahn ahn!

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    1. I am sorry Eya, on this one you have to come back to the 21st century. A woman backing like that, no problem abi? LOL...For me, as long as he's helping, however he looks doing it is romantic.

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  3. I stand up on MS's behalf. Yay! There's no domestic chore he can't do. We share it because I'm not a slave and neither is he. If we lived in Nigeria, things would be different as we would have some help. Here most couples do it themselves. Unless a man wants to run his wife into the ground, he's gotta pitch in! Be realistic guys!

    Some men use it as form of control to show their partner they're the man!!! I know one woman whose naija hubby demands fresh food every day. He is not domesticated in anyway and cannot boil water to save his life!!! They are both high earning professionals, work full time and have children. They have no house help. He won't eat anything chilled or frozen and expects his food served pronto 6.30pm every night. So na fresh stew cooked from scratch every single day. If he's back before her, he'll park his feet on the coffee table and wait for her to come back and cook!!!

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    1. This one hell of a useless man you just described...I don't blame him sha, his wife indulged him.

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    2. SMH. But maybe it works for them if the wife has been doing it all this while.

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    3. Er, this is one very USELESS Nigerian man!

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  4. There really is no big deal in helping in domestic chores. But you got to understand that a relationship has to be first healthy before romantic.In a very healthy relationship a man can do anything. Please let us keep the basic.

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    1. Victor, domestic chores are a big deal in the average Nigerian household, and to say otherwise is simply denial. Like Myne said many Nigerian men refuse to break gender stereotypes when it comes to house work, healthy relationship or no healthy relationship. And by the way, I don't think dividing house chores is about romance. It's common sense. Slavery was abolished centuries ago. A healthy relationship may only make the discussion on chores a bit easier, but that's about it.

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  5. I believe in the traditional gender roles. However, if a man feels he should help around the house, fine! Thats his personal decision. No woman should as a result of this begin to query her husband. I'm a typical nigerian man!

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    1. All I can say is , come into this day and age and be a real Nigerian man.

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  6. first of all,the pictures posted on the net by peter of him cooking is nothing more than a celebrity publicity stunt looking at the pic it is patently obvious that he is neither comfortable nor at home in the kitchen like a man or an individual who cooks would be..
    secondly i dont have anything against men who imbibe western customs by becoming overly domestic and women who push feminist values down their throats whatever works for individual couples i guess..however i can say without any fear or favour that i am traditional when it comes to certain roles a wife should play and the roles a man should play in the house lets just say i subscribe to the traditional african valued and biblical values however i must be quick to point out that this has to be within reason…a woman might cook but it doesn't mean that you as a man will sit down at the table everyday and mandate her to serve you food and drinks..a balance could be struck there.. i dont subscribe to forcing a man to do 50% of everything just because you want to fulfil some sort of feminist,modern family valuesand lets be honest most men who do so suppress the feelings of resentment,frustration and helplessness towards their wives by taking it out on others either female juniors in their work place,or just anyone they have authority over..
    when there is real love involved a woman would not need to force or mandate a man to do anything ,just imbibe and do your own thing and a man who genuinely loves you wil help out even more than you expect without being told no wonder marriage is an unpopular notion in modern western societies..

    if the so called feminist modern family was that sucesul then the rate of divorce and single mothers will not be as high

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    1. But then u marry a white woman and you can suddenly cook for her, take care of the kids and do other nontraditional house chores WITHOUT suppressing or taking out any frustration on other women.


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    2. I doubt anyone is trying to force things down anybody's throat, and I certainly don't have a ruler to measure 50%. Men can take the initiative in doing housechores, rather then waiting to be asked or feeling they are just doing the woman a favor.

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    3. @prism of an immigrant
      now you are generalising,as we all know people get married to white girls/women for several reasons one of which is immigration status,hence the reason they are able to quietly swallow the insults even if it goes against their convictions..for instance how many of such marriages have lasted more than a year?i can speak for the united kingdom at least..
      secondly that particular comment about the men suppressing their angst and frustration actually cuts across tribe,colour,race…there is a book witten by matt o conor the british guy who started the father's for justice org pls make time to read it and you will realise that even the white/western men suffer from such frustrations as well
      they just seem better at pretending,suppressing it while masking their outward mien because they have been doing it for years

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    4. @myne whitman
      well if you go through most feminist movements,magazines e.t.c they tend to force their beliefs down people's throats and are confrontational as well..
      this is my personal opinion even outside of my views on how domestic a man should be..
      if a wife has to prod,remind,force,mandate,induce a man to do household chores or to go halves on everything…is she confident of the man being that docile and humble if they eventually move back to africa?

      there is no man on earth who is genuinely in love and cherish his partner that would not help out freely even without being asked in one way or another…it becomes contrived,sickeningly pandering to western values when the man is somehow forced to conform to household chores….

      although i am not married but i love cooking as a hobby and i tend to watch ex girlfriends when they cook i can bake a meat pie and do at least 3/4 diff stews including egusi,i can even cook better than most women but i was neither forced not induced to do it still does not change the fact that i have my pride as an african man

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    5. I am a feminist and I think both genders should be real and work with each other, especially if in a relationship. See, I have my pride too, so I'm not out to steal any man's pride, but men should also allow women the same. As far as I see it, there's no force needed, if a man cooks and cleans in the UK, he should be willing, ready and able to do the same when back in his African home country.

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    6. well then,i believe you have just hit on the pertinent point which is that there is no force needed…for the records i was not on about the average cleaning but what i am fiercely against is forcing a man to put on an apron and cut tomato or do something in the kitchen simply because the wife is cooking i will prefer you dont cook if you are tired or not up to it than saying i must do 50%..pls lets not forget that we all have different personalities friend of mine does not like cooking or cleaning of any kind both in nigeria and abroad yet she is a really nice,caring,down to earth,and accomplished medical doctor and a masters degree holder and i have male friends who can't stand cooking or household chores but make up for it in several other diverse ways..
      how many feminists will call me an uncultured african man and see it as a first negative impression if we went out on a first date and i refused to open the door for the lady?

      pls be honest if i saw you changing a flat tire with rain drizzling,and i had my hands in my pockets chatting with you while you were changing the tire without helping or better still sitting inside the car heating on what would you honestly think of me?

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  7. Love this share Myne..generally speaking the world can do with a lot more men like Peter who are willing to stand by their women and help around in the home. From God's perspective, she is his help meet and not the one on whom all the burden of responsibility lies.

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    1. I agree with on on the 'Help meet' part o. Some Nigerian men sha. You used to cook as a bachelor, so all of that changes because you married me? Even when you are dating them they expect you to cook and do laundry for them. Wo, I will sit down, cross my legs and fold my arms. In fact, even the casual friend expects you to cook for him. Ha!

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    2. Thanks Yvonne and Scarlet. I wish more traditional men would understand that, instead they even misquote the bible to support themselves.

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  8. I see some defensive comments from some guys here. It's about time Nigerian men step up and contribute more around the house. But that wouldn't happen until we change the way we see gender and women in Nigeria. Maybe Nollywood should get involved and give us shows intended to change attitudes. Now that would be worth watching over those " wives" series with faux moral lessons.

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    1. Well said, Prism. I hope some courageous writer puts that in a script soon. Though in Nigeria where help is more affordable, it is rarely the case that men are that involved in keeping the home.

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    2. I think it starts from mothers, how many mothers want to visit their son in his marital home and find him doing the dishes or sweeping the floor ....most of them will be livid and call the wife to one side or begin to look at you "one kind" .

      I pray we get to the level where chores will not be stereotyped and will be freely shared in the home. Most homes have domestic help because some husbands can't do their bit with the chores. Maybe when domestic help becomes very expensive like it is in obodo oyinbo, the men will start pulling their weight.

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  9. i really love this post myne. Its really sad but some African men actually view helping with home chores especially cooking as a taboo even if the wife has a 9-5job.

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    1. Really sad, but I see more and more seeing the error of their ways :)

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  10. Umm i think it depends on the mind set of the parent,I cooked and did chores *still do* thats how i was brought up,have just 1 sister and she can`t do all so we all have to help. I spent alot of my childhood in Nigeria too :)

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    1. Thanks for the comment. Your parents are to be applauded then. I hope you continue in the same way when you get married and start to raise a family.

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  11. I find that most of the domesticated Nigerian men live abroad. When you live in America, for instance, no one need tell you twice before you learn how to wash the plate it just seems common sense. But put in the same situation in Nigeria, where wife goes to work, man goes to work, wife manages to make dinner and after eating the man stands up, washes hand on already set out water-bowl and goes to watch football. Hmm... that ish don't fly over here o

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    1. LOL...I agree. But even in Nigeria, it only works if they have help. If not, something has to give o!

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  12. These comments are getting me rolling with laughter. See mindset of people sha.

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    1. Interesting I say, lol. I'll check it out, thanks.

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  13. True true Myne.

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  14. It is only when men live abroad that they get all domesticated esp. when they live alone. Transport same men back to naija, they will change style and be looking for women who will baby them all the time.

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  15. Love this post!

    Please men, have mercy! I think it takes a considerate man to want to look after the woman that he declares to be in love with.. "To love and to cherish.." it is..

    My wonder for men who don't help around the house or not domesticated is this - Why would you see that your loved one is under strain and you wouldn't voluntarily be moved to want to help her?
    Why would you see an opportunity to assist and support your better half and ignore it for the sake of 'tradition'.. I feel that when you truly love another human being, you think of ways to make their lives easier.. For me, it's just being thoughtful, kind and showing LOVE..

    Men pleaseee love your wives! :-)

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    1. to love and cherish comes in so many different ways,i dont agree until a man does the dishes and cooks thats when he loves and cherishes his wife or significant other.i could cook you a sumptuous meal and clean the whole house from top to buttom but smack you around or abuse the kids.. real and unadulterated love is allowing the man to be himself and showing the "love and cherish"in his own way
      when you force or mould a man or an individual to what you want or make him conform to your own ideals you dont allow them to blossom and that in my opinion is not love

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  16. I personally believe the issue is being overflogged. Didi's comment sums it up perfectly. It depends on the upbringing. My mom raised me to do all the chores in the house and I started cooking when I was 10, I have 2 sisters. As a kid, I didn't know anything about a man's duty or a woman's role. All I knew was that I washed fresh bitterleaf, haggled meat in the market, scrubbed bathrooms and kitchen floors and cooked. It simply became a part of me. At first I did it because it was my assigned responsibility, but as I grew older I did it out of love and a sense of responsibility. We didn't have any househelp, so if I didn't pitch in, my mum would have had to do it or my sisters. I loved them too much to fold my hands and stand idle while they 'slaved' away. So to be fair to some men, you cannot 'correct' a lifestyle of laziness/indifference, that was formed and developed over years in 1 week. Communication and understanding is key, before you say I do, shine your eye well and discuss it/air your views/come to an understanding.

    I will not stand and watch my wife toil alone in the kitchen. I'll assist/support/encourage her in the kitchen as much as she allows me. My advice to menfolk is this, "don't expect your wife to treat you like a king if you treat her like a slave". Gone are the 'housewife' days. Our generation may still be in limbo when it comes to role play, but I believe we have a huge role when it comes to how the next generation would act. If you are a man/woman and you have kids, domesticate ALL your children. Nobody (male/female) should open his/her mouth and say they can't cook or fend for themselves. The 21st century no be Zamunda, and you are not Akeem (a la Coming to America).

    Sorry for the epistle :)

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  17. A domesticated man is what I pray for because I have not the patience to contend with a man who cannot carry his own weight small! I don't expect you to be cooking up a storm in the kitchen (unless you are a chef) but at least clear your plates into the dustbin and put them in the sink. I don't mind washing them. If you find it hard to clean the house, then please clean your side of the room at least. If you see the bath tub is dirty, please don't be shy to scrub away. You use the bathroom too, abi? People need to realize that gender roles changed when women started working! If you and your wife work 9-5, why would you expect her to come home and slave in the kitchen while you just relax there? It's so common! It aggravates me! My dad does it too! I can't marry a man like my papa in that respect oh! I'll just file for divorce quick! LOL! Where is the modern, domesticated Nigerian man who realizes that his wife is his companion and partner not his "Ekaete"? My number is 0817-CALL-MEE!:-*

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    1. Well said! Had me laughing at the phone number :)

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  18. WOW!!! some of the comments are so disturbing!!!! wow!! so men are still like this? God will never put some of you in my path!

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    1. LOL!! Your prayer is funny!! Amen though. Many Nigerian men do the macho, man of the house thing but a few are proper Hanson when it comes to taking the of the kinds and all.

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    2. LOL...you have not seen some Nigerian men o, though some of them are simply flexing. In their homes most go tame :)

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  19. Air mecca are you open to women proposing too? Cause I want to marry you. You can wash bitter leaf? I'm on my knees. Lool.

    I can't add more to this debate. I have a father who helped out when needed. Had a brother in law who baby sat the kids and cooked. So I doubt I can tolerate a man who doesn't chip in regularly.


    In other matters...I didn't know PSquare Peter was married. Where is Nwunye?!

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    1. The nwunye is standing next to him in the first picture though all we know for now is that she is babymama.

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    2. Naa Myne, I meant Igbophilia. You know she has a big crush on the Ejima. Lol.

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  20. personally agreed with u Myne, Can u please add my blog to ur blog list? www.ogusbab.com

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  21. How about a post on Nigerian women adjusting themselves to the norms of the 21st century. One can't always blame the men. I have friends who cannot even change a light bulb in the house because "it's man work". What about those that call their husbands every time there is man work to be done? I'm not talking about chores that require much physical strength oh. It's worse in Nigeria ... my friend change your tires yourself or negotiate with the vulcanizer .. your husband does not have to drive from Ogba to Iwaya to help your helpless self with the flat tires. My dear, there is a nail sticking out the door, please come home ... how about you get a hammer or stone and knock it back in yourself abeg.
    Most women themselves perpetuate the gender divide in chores. Most of us here talking about wanting a domesticated man would still expect him to take on the "man work". I come from a background where everyone did everything, no gender nonsense. I'm a girl and I washed cars, I assisted in changing tires, I can paint, I can use a hammer, I don't need a man to turn the circuit breaker back on, my brothers can as well cook and do so. Therefore, I would like my husband to be able to cook and will most definitely teach my sons to do so but I will be fair and partake in the so called man work too.

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    1. Now this is a fair woman talking. Thank you!

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  22. Big smile! Loving your response. I agree.
    We women do forget to challenge ourselves about the stereotypes we perpetuate. Because just like the men, these women handled their circuit breaking and nail hammering when they were by themselves but immediately a man/boyfriend/husband comes into the picture, they become helpless.

    Breaking gender stereotypes is hard. We should look inwards before pointing fingers.
    Thanks for pointing it out.

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  23. @ Beautiful Nubian's Blog.............u really write well, very apt and descriptive but habaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

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  24. I'v been called a tomboy every now and then and i enjoy it. But being a female is what i am too! Maybe it has to do with being a first child and female with 3 siblings after moi. I enjoy house chores and prefer deligation of duties. As such, both man and woman...husband and wife has one or two things to do in the home.

    This has nothing to do with competition or otherwise. Like someone mentioned, some females have gotten to the 21st century "lazy" mentality that the man has to do everything! Excuse me?

    When i get married, i won't expect to "force" him to help out. He has to see the need in helping out. It shouldn't just be routine to the extent that couples forget the pleasure in being help meets.

    But really, truth be told, some men can be extremely lazy! There are somethings ladies should not do at all. Take changing of gas cylinder for instance. Admitted, some can be quite easy to lift. But really, what's the big deal in helping a sweaty lady who has been rigmarolling in the kitchen for hours with a heavy gas cylinder? Of course she would have to do it herself if he wasn't around, but his presence should be felt in the kitchen and not the table alone.

    I remember one time i needed to a fowl to be killed( to be taken to school) i begged my big brothers(not blood related) to help me out but they gave one excuse or the other. I didnt even argue with them. With my sharp knife, i not only slaughtered the fowl, i de-winged it, washed it..all to the stage of frying..myself! Of course, i didnt give them my treasure..not even the skinny foot.

    My mentor would say he makes breakfast at home at times..not because he's a houseboy or he's foolish but because he chose to help out. I'm sure our men know the right thing to do at different times. What's worse? Some won't mind if they are fed and carried to the toilet too!

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